A WWDB Non Truth

A while back I was reading a post allegedly authored by a gung ho IBO (Hey, it rhymes!) who made the mistake of either blindly believing something that was told to him or else plain old making things up.

In his post "Reflections of Last Night" written on October 1st of last year, he claims the following about Brad Duncan:

"I honestly don’t give a rip what you may “read” from some person somewhere on the internet, if you actually get around the man, talk to him you’ll see where his heart is. Honestly he is the ONLY Crown that is still showing the plan!"

I can confirm with absolute certainty that Brad Duncan is not the only Crown actively showing the plan. I know for certain at least one other Crown who shows the plan on a regular basis. I asked the Crown directly via email, and got a response today.

So indeed, before believing some person somewhere on the internet, ask people other than your upline about factual details regarding Amway, and you may actually find out the truth.

That advice would evidently include our friend Shaun over at Expeditions of Truth.

Who told this to Shaun? Don't know. Don't care.

It's wrong. It's inaccurate. Whoever told him that is either lying or wrong. I think Shaun believed it, and I'm not being critical of him.

I just wonder what else he's been told which he believes to be absolutely 100% the truth that's not?

I suspect a lot more than just this.

I also suspect he went to all 3 Dream Nights in the Alberta area this month.

There's the possibility that he may be misled regarding the benefits of these "Dream Nights".

EDIT: Forgot to add this:

This is precisely why I put very little credence to his most recent post regarding "Trust". The overarching message seems to be, "Trust your upline, and trust it blindly. Anyone who says different than your uplink is the enemy".

That's the feeling I get from his posts anyway.

Just Sayin'....

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Don't Start Believin'

One of my most favourite songs in the world is Journey's "Don't Stop Believing'" I've always loved it and I always will love it.

Quite often in the Amway world, you are told to believe. Believe in yourself, believe in your upline, believe in your downline, believe in your product, and believe what everyone who loves Amway says.

Why? Why do you have to believe in it? Don't the opportunity, the products, and the people involved speak for themselves?

Don't get me wrong, I strongly feel in any job you need to believe in what you are doing in order to succeed. I also grew up around my dad, who is very successful with the businesses he owns. He believed in what he was doing, but he didn't go around preaching it to everyone like a braying jackass.

In Amway, we have recent examples of people saying they believe in what they are doing, and they are on their way to a much better life than those of us not in Amway.

Funny thing is, I don't think it's true. I don't believe fired up IBO's are on their way to anything better than me or you. There is simply not nearly enough evidence out there to prove that Amway provides an income which will roll in long after they decide they've had enough of whatever it is an Amway dude does.

Name me a few folks who are collecting residuals and are not reliant upon motivational income. Name them already, surely there has to be plenty! Jeez, they've even gotten to the point where they have multiple smaller rallies to have the same people pay 2 or 3 times for a seminar. It's a new tweak on making money from your group and there are people out there who actually believe that it will help them become more profitable by going to all of these events within a few hours of each other. Amazing. Like a fricking travelling wrestling show!

This recently happened in Alberta with WWDB. If they had that many people, they should be getting a bigger venue. Oh, but that would mean only being able to charge people once for a motivational rally which have yet to have been proven to produce a tangible result.

Like it or not, there is a lot of negative connotations associated with Amway. People are uncomfortable with it and that reputation is well earned. It doesn't appear to be getting any better.

The motivation is likely still making "leaders" more profit than product volume. I don't believe anyone who is under the platinum level is breaking even. At all.

But then the argument is that you are such a good person now for being in Amway. Really? That's it? That's what you believe? OK.

Oh, and I see people are still playing the same tired old song about paying FULL FROCKING RETAIL for products and putting the difference into your "business account". Nothing like paying more taxes than you need to. What a joke that is. No real business owner pays full retail for his/her own products. That's just a silly practice encouraged by uplines to present the illusion of money making.

In business, you should not be going on faith. You go on profit and PROFITABILITY. This means its worth doing what you are doing IN MONEY!!!!

Don't start believing' until PROFIT (real profit not fake profit) is happening.

Listen to the Amway Corporation.....when they say something

Amway Answers....is actually starting to answer questions (carefully)

Below is a screen shot which should give pause to those who choose to blindly believe the Amway defenders online.

These are the corporation's answers regarding profitability and discipline claims made by Amway's Caped Crusader..

This is what you should listen to folks, whether you are pro Amway or not. Again, we have some guy for some reason thinking he knows better than the corporation that he's accountable to as one of it's distributors.

Would I listen to Amway? Not a chance, but then, I'm not an IBO. If you are seeking answers regarding diamonds getting kicked out or whether people make full time incomes, here are your answers that matter. Unfortunately, the ACTUAL truth about Amway seems to be difficult to come by these days due to what could be construed as obfuscation by a die hard clique.

Amway is who you allow in your theatre, in the words of another defender. Perhaps she should consider taking some of her own advice that she's eager to freely give to everyone else?

Her call. Just a suggestion. After all, one of the people she chooses to associate with could be considered deceptive in some of his statements.

So, do hundreds of thousands of people make a full time income through Amway? The corporation does NOT say so.

Have dozens of diamonds been kicked out? The corporation does NOT say so.

I'm still awaiting some answers to other questions that have been posed to the Corporation. I'll fill you in when they come.....

As always, I welcome correction!

The MLM Punisher

There's a new voice out there with the not so pro Amwayer and Monaviers out there.

By the looks of his first couple of posts and the "about me" section, he has a lot to say.

So take a visit! You won't be disappointed.

For the lunatic fringe who consistently object that all the complaints about Amway can be rejected because that was a long time ago, you might want to take a visit. I would wager these practices have been going on and will be going on. Just because you don't want it to be happening doesn't mean it isn't.

I don't think many people outside Amway really believed you anyway. I would be surprised to see Bridgett Baron or David Steadson (aka IBOFB), or the rest of the usual Amway defenders to challenge The Punisher.

I would also bet that The Punisher has been to more Dream Nights than even the most die hard believin' Amway gung ho IBO.

Open Question to any IBO...Any IBO at all

My questions to anyone in WWDB, InterNet, LTD etc. etc. .....

Who has built a house in cash recently based on Amway income?

Who has retired for 5 years and received consistent income based on the sale of Amway products through their group?

Show me! Make me a believer!

'Cause there hasn't been anything yet that would make me believe the things IBO's say are both achievable and consistent.