Sunday, August 12, 2007

Should Be An Interesting Week

Well, I must say, a LOT of IBO's have come out of the woodwork (not Woodward..hee-hee) and responding to Amway/Quixtar/Alticor's media blog about the diamonds that are no longer in the business.

Basically, you have 2 schools of thought, Amway is right and Orrin is right.

There is just a myriad of loaded questions that the critics could ask Amway or Orrin, or Billy Florence or Chris Brady, or Fred (aka "Zack") Harteis, or Don Wilson et al.

This is a very different type of exodus in Amway. Firstly, it's not just one "disgruntled" person who is messing up big time and has lost sight of things. This is over a dozen high level people that have decided that this business is just not worth hanging on to.

Whatever happened to this being a willable business you could pass on to your children? If that is true, why are there a dozen or so thinking it's not worth it?

For years, many "leaders" and hardcore IBO's have been saying prices were competitive, plain and simple. Why is there now a lawsuit by the same dozen or so claiming that because the prices are so high it's an illegal pyramid scheme?

Why are we now finding out only now that less than 5% (Point # 45 in the lawsuit) of sales are to people outside of the business when it was known last year? Probably because it's a privately held company and it doesn't have to disclose that fact to anybody. I remember people always saying that it was better than other businesses because it was privately held. Is that good? This suggests that perhaps it isn't such a good thing to be involved in a privately held, and therefore unaccountable business.

Let's not forget about Woodward, Harteis, Wilson et al. How can you be telling people something you benefit from for so long, then just walk away? How can you be saying one thing for most of your Amway career and then turn around and say the exact opposite at the drop of a hat? Bo Short comes to mind, in that they were either lying all those years, or they are lying now.

In short, this is one huuuge can'o' worms that's just been opened. Humpty Dumpty has fallen off the wall, and I don't think all the king's horses and all the king's men are going to be able to make it right again.

I wish I could say I felt sorry for one side or the other. I really do. But this song has been sung for a very long time.

Now it's time for everyone to pay the piper.

Stay Tuned

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Anonymous Joecool said...


If there were problems, why didn't those "Team" diamonds "walk away" from Quixtar and just sit on the beaches of the world collecting "residual income" forever and ever?


13 August, 2007 13:43  
Anonymous david Whyte said...

Roger that Rocket

Found your blog via the happen's that are happening on this issue.

Been reading slowly through your "back issues" Have been impressed by your blog comments. A very sensible thought out statements. Very hard to come across in this, people are total believers or total disses, so constructive diologue seems near impossible.... Look forward to the unfolding of events.

24 August, 2007 03:08  
Blogger rocket said...

Thanks David.

Well, as far as balance, I am decidedly not for the Amway/Quixtar opportunity.

The problem I have is with the spin about the uncompetitive prices, the tool income issue, and the general secrecy that is involved with Quixtar/Amway.

The tool income issue is now out in the open, and is being admitted to. Up until a few years ago, it was completely denied until it was foolish to deny it anymore. Now it's being justified, and even if it were a results producing program (the tools are not) there are more efficient ways to distribute it. CD's and videos can be downloaded, as opposed to thousands buying copies of the same thing for $7.00 each.

Feel free to drop in again!

24 August, 2007 11:57  

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