Friday, November 02, 2007

Another One Bites The Dust...

Yet another Amway/Quixtar leader has resigned.

New article over at Scott Larsen's site which you can find here. According to Larsen's article, Jerry is a 30 year IBO at the diamond level.

Why would someone like Jerry Harteis resign? Is it not worth hanging on to to will to his children?

In the previous post, some person who goes by anonymous gets into a banter and into a hissy fit when I remark about how I think the training is a bunch of spin to justify the higher prices. My point is that a number of companies are able to train people on the value of a product, and don't even worry about justifying the price. If the market accepts it, it will sell.

What does Jerry Harteis think about the prices? Same as me, evidently.

"Additionally, the IBOAI board had been repeatedly asking for more price-competitive product lines since the internet had leveled the playing field with regard to product availability. Those requests have gone unheeded."

Don't get mad a what most people know, anonymous.


Anonymous Joecool said...

Wait wait, nobody at that level quits right? Don't you just "walk away" and collect "residual" income forever and ever?

02 November, 2007 17:26  
Blogger rocket said...

So the legend goes Joecool.

Along with everyone is dead or dead broke by 65

03 November, 2007 14:42  
Blogger rocket said...


Maybe you can tell us why Herteis would walk away.

It's obviously a money maker, according to you.

So why would he leave?

03 November, 2007 15:34  
Blogger Loser said...

"Don't get mad a what most people know, anonymous."

Typo. "at"

04 November, 2007 11:59  
Anonymous Joecool said...

If nobody every quit the business, you could in theory, receive "residual" income. But with 50% or more IBOs quitting each year, only a rare tenured diamond could possibly walk away and collect residual income thru quixtar.

05 November, 2007 11:41  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Nice twist on the conversation, I was NEVER PO'd at this topic. This is the first time I've ever heard of this. Why don't you go back and actually read what I was PO'd about? Maybe I could refresh your memory, it was about asking for people's proof of income. That's right. This topic was never made mention of in the last post was it?

05 November, 2007 14:07  
Blogger rocket said...

Look anon, I'm not gonna sit here and debate with you.

You said it works, I said it doesn't.

You said it does, I said prove it.

You then played the legal beagle role, and got shut down when I wasn't intimidated by your bullshit threats.

If this works, then why did another diamond quit?

Just try to answer yourself honestly about that.

Don't worry, you will likely think for yourself again someday, and this won't be so confusing.

05 November, 2007 16:38  
Anonymous Joecool said...

Anonymous, nobody it asking you for your social security number or your personal income information.

The challenge is based strictly on your quixtar income and expenses.

Whatyou really should do, all joking aside is to an honest assessment of your business.

How long have you been acive?
What have you accomplished?
Where are you in relation to the 2-5 year plan?
What are your projections of income and expenses in the upcoming months.

If your upline is advising you to ignore facts, maybe he/she doesn't truly have your best interest at heart.

05 November, 2007 17:16  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


"If this works, then why did another diamond quit?"

Again, I don't know the whole story. Maybe Harteis could come on your blog and give his side of the story? I don't know of him or what happened. Lots of Diamonds quit, so what? More room at the top for us I'd say.

Why didn't he just sell his business on Ebay?

05 November, 2007 21:56  
Anonymous Joecool said...

Anonymous, it's another diamond who quit.

Why? Because there is no residual income in quixtar. It's a term used by diamonds promoting their system, but do you ever see quixtar advertising it? It's one of the thinkgs used to attract new IBOs.

With high prices and a low retention rate, there's no way you can guarantee that your income will continue once you stop building the business.

As I said before, do you know people who have quit the business and continue to buy their consumables from quixtar?

06 November, 2007 11:09  
Blogger rocket said...

Lots of diamonds quit? This is coming from an IBO now?

Every diamond story ever told tells of the tremendous sacrifice and superhuman strength it took to go diamond....but it was all worth it.

Only to quit.

Yeah, makes sense anon. If it's not worth hanging onto, then why spend all the time away from your family and wear & tear on the vehicle, and spend all that money on overpriced products?

More room at the top? I think not. There were too many already, and if it weren't for the tool income, i daresay they wouldn't have stuck around as long as they did.

Prove otherwise though. Take Rocket's Challenge.

No balls, huh?

Or do you just know in your heart of hearts that I'm right?

07 November, 2007 19:22  

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