Friday, September 07, 2007

From Worse to Borderline Psychotic....

I don't know why I still get surprised at the complete nonsense that Amway/Quixtar perpetuates in order to make their business seem appealing, and to make it look as though they care about the issues that impact IBO's when trying to develop "their" business. (Point of order - I don't know whose business it is when an IBO signs up anymore, considering that Quixtar considers IBO's their property).

Well, the latest corporate slight of hand in regards to the painfully obvious (except to Amway evidently) issue of high prices is to - get this - not lower the prices, but to lower the amount you get in an order, thus lowering the prices.

I wish I was kidding.

I have absolutely no idea how in the hell you grow as a company to the size Amway has grown with this mentality, but since you're here, I'm going to take a stab at it.

The world is a smaller place now, much smaller for Quixtar/Amway after the falling out with Woodward et al. Amway has been able to get by on charisma, excitement, and what some would consider deception. Now, given that nothing can be kept quiet anymore (not even the deep dark secret of 3.4% of products retailed outside of IBO's) reality is screaming up the road like a locomotive while you have the Amway corporation pulling their wagon dead in it's track.

In a consumer age of better value, and retailers running higher volumes with lower markup, this just isn't going to work. Hype the products all you want, they may be good, but they aren't as good as the corporation thinks they are. The vast majority of the population isn't going to buy into this, thus making the "opportunity" again, doomed from the beginning. Period.

This is what happens in the 21st century when reality meets fantasy, and if Amway/Quixtar can't adjust better than this, they deserve to get bad reviews when people see it for what it is, which is a an absolute joke pretending it's not one.

It's kinda too bad, because if Amway/Quixtar was going to make MEANINGFUL changes to the products and pricing problems, now is the time. The issue of the AMO's and tools is completely separate, yet not.

If your products aren't competitive, you have nothing to save from the evil Darth Woodward. You will still fail as a corporation, and as an IBO.

Am I the only one who sees this? Where am I wrong? Ray Alexander says:

"
I think it is obvious ... there is a lot happening within Quixtar, and selling product is getting easier every day."

I call bullshit.

"BULLSHIT!"

17 Comments:

Anonymous Joecool said...

Great post Rocket! It's scary how some of these uplines can actually convince people that quixtar stuff is cheaper than Walmart or Costco.

For the price of 100 PV, I can walk out of Costco or Walmart with cartloads of stuff, not a case of XS and two month's worth of double x.

07 September, 2007 13:45  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I personaly didn't get started as an IBO inorder to buy things cheap. I believe everything I purchase to be an investment towards myself, it's called being a prosumer. I am an IBO to make money.

21 September, 2007 14:27  
Anonymous Joecool said...

So exactly how do you make money by purchasing overpriced products?

26 September, 2007 13:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suppose it's some ones personal opinion whether or not something is over priced. I think in a different way then you I'm not trying to get rich by saving. Money isn't made in this business by buying things yourself. It's made my many people buying things, and also selling things at a retail price. I am proof that it is possible. I have monthly customers that purchase items at retail. I'm not going to pretend that the brands are cheap, but I also will not pretend that they aren't the best. Maybe this business isn't for some people, but I know it's bettered my life.

29 September, 2007 21:41  
Anonymous Joecool said...

Ok so how do you sell a one month supply of double x for $78 when I can buy a one month supply of Costco multi vitamins for $15.99?

The business has bettered your life? That's great! Did you make a profit though?

02 October, 2007 14:16  
Anonymous iosonoiosoloio said...

Who gets into business to better their life as an only motive?? I have yet to see proof that Quixtar's products are infact superior. I don't want to hear it from only Quixtar, I want to hear it from an independant source. Every time I ask this, an IBO directs me to a Quixtar site. I am ready to be convinced, so convince me but do it without biased Quixtar sites.I would also expect that a critic wouldn't send me to a clearly anti-Quixtar site for the contrary. I do know this...I can buy a vaccum at Best Buy for $149 the exact same vaccum is at Quixtar for $279, where is the logic or the benefit in that?? I will admit, I am still learning about Quixtar and my initial introduction to the company was in no way pleasant, but I'd like to think that I am an open person, so I am trying to learn about it and its products, partly because I have to now due to the situation surronding my introduction, but mostly out of curiosity, as I am a business owner. So far, I have not been impressed. But I am open to hearing both sides...so impress me IBO's, if you can.

10 October, 2007 16:09  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to say if you have something bad to say about our business, your just one of the thousands of people who are to lazy to do something for your future I personally know a handful of multi millionaires in the business who are willing to help me become successfull......Can you say that about what your doing....doubt it.

24 October, 2007 10:54  
Anonymous Marty said...

I would like to say if you have something bad to say about our business, your just one of the thousands of people who are to lazy to do something for your future I personally know a handful of multi millionaires in the business who are willing to help me become successfull......Can you say that about what your doing....doubt it.

Warning! Warning! Robot alert!!! Wow, never heard that one before. Good Amabot, now go drink your XS and meet me back here in a year when you're a bit poorer and a little more aware of the fraud which is Amway/Quixtar.

I was successful in Quixtar and I knew multi-millionaires, too! Too bad the only thing they know is how to hussle people like you to keep themselves and their kids bankrolled.

If you want to be mentored by someone rich on being rich, go read a book by a millionaire that endorses creativity, work ethic and people skills that doesn't also mention selling overpriced vitamins in the same breath.

24 October, 2007 13:18  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know I don't expect people to understand what we do. There are only 2% of the population that will. And you know its not all about the product my marriage and life with my huband and child are better because of the association of people I am around so if you think I am a robot fine, don't care. I am proud of what I do and what I have accomplished in this business and I don't expect you to understand.

24 October, 2007 14:10  
Anonymous Joecool said...

Anonymous said...
"You know I don't expect people to understand what we do. There are only 2% of the population that will. And you know its not all about the product my marriage and life with my huband and child are better because of the association of people I am around so if you think I am a robot fine, don't care. I am proud of what I do and what I have accomplished in this business and I don't expect you to understand."

Joe says: I fully understand what you do. Guess what? The quixtar business and business activities contributes nothing to society. All you do is redirect resources from downline to upline in the form of overpriced products and tapes and seminars. Quixtar and a few high level diamonds get all the profits.

Can you please please please explain how neglecting your kids and family to attend all the quixtar meetings makes your marriage and kids better off emotionally and financially?

25 October, 2007 19:29  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am actually able to be a stay at home mom because of the business so if I wasn't doing this I would be working a 40 hour week like everyone else and seeing my son a few hours before he goes to sleep.
So a few hours here and there to show this business model to someone else is a lot better than throwing my son into daycare and not being a part of his everyday experiences.

05 November, 2007 14:58  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To iosonoiosolio if you really want to know more about the business I would be glad to inform you. I am sorry you had a not so good impression of the business from someone. So if you really want to know more I can answer any questions or concerns you have.

05 November, 2007 15:14  
Anonymous Joecool said...

Anonymous, who watches your son when you are showing the plan to others?

How many of your downline are profitable?

Nobody denies that some people make money in quixtar. The problem is that for every one person who makes money, they have a slew of downline who are losing money. The business plan is structured this way.

05 November, 2007 18:18  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you do the business like your tought you should not be losing money. Am I going to deny that some products are over priced no so I don't buy those products, but you can go to Walmart and find overpriced products.
And whoever watches my son is usually a family member, but I still see him more than most parents get to see there kid and if we are gone its only one or two nights a week if that and a lot of the time its just my husband that goes. If you think that what I do makes me a bad parent or whatever you think maybe you should be writing a blog about famous people who have kids and then throw them to wolves to be raised.
And for my downline making money right now there getting back what they put in Walmart doesn't do that. I am not denying it doesn't take time, but any millionaire that I have read about it usually takes then 7-10 years to get there. So if it takes a few years well then I guess I am ahead of the curve.
Pick up the magazine "Success from home" Quixtar is on the cover.

06 November, 2007 10:09  
Anonymous Joecool said...

Anonymous, you are mistaken that you make money if yuo do as taught.

Once you get on the "system", you are nearly guaranteed to lose money.

It's like trying to swim with a brick tied to one of your arms. It's possible to swim, but you are greatly handicapped.

Secondly, doing what is "taught" in also nearly impossible. Once your initial namelist is gone, you then have to work extra hard to try and "meet" new people to talk to and to show the business to.

Anonymous said: I am not denying it doesn't take time, but any millionaire that I have read about it usually takes then 7-10 years to get there.

Joe says: Then why do you promote a 2-5 year plan?

06 November, 2007 13:20  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't promote a 2-5 year plan.It is possible, but you are going to work very hard at it. But definately in 2-5 years I will be making enough to be living a comfortable life.
But you know the more I sit here and defend what I do the more fired up I get, but I am also wasting time. So I am going to go play with my son at 1:16 in the afternoon because ........I DONT HAVE TO HAVE A JOB BECAUSE OF QUIXTAR.

06 November, 2007 14:17  
Anonymous Joecool said...

I don't have a job either. I sit around and write on blogs and I make $12,000 a month.

06 November, 2007 14:49  

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