What Is The Truth?
I was over at Crazy World blog and came upon an interesting post by the author, and it led to me posting an honest question at the Adatudes blog in lieu of a smarmy comment. Don't know if it's going to be "approved" or not, but I basically asked if there was any truth to that theory here.
What the message of the post essentially is suggests that Amway/Quixtar could be putting retail customer orders under platinums anonymously. One person even commented to say this may have happened to him, as he has received a bunch of customers with no names or shipping addresses.
What does that do? It eventually allows Amway/Quixtar to lay claim that there is actually a lot of retail sales going on, when there isn't.
Now, before we go any further, I am not saying this is going on. I'm also not saying this is not going on. What I am saying is that if it were going on, who would really be able to prove it? I mean honestly, Amway/Quixtar/Alticor is all privately held and accountable to nobody.
Remember how when IBO's are trying to lend credibility to the company, it's always pointed out to be a family run private company? Not always good, because they wouldn't be accountable to anyone, nor would they have to disclose anything they don't want to disclose. Obviously, they will share what is good, but until very recently, you never heard anything that was bad/negative spoken by the company. I mean seriously, after a completely dismal performance trying to pretend that none of the bad was going on, they finally grabbed a glove and got into the game. The fact that they waited so long to strategize how they were going to deal with it is very telling as to the veracity of the issues.
I never gave the privately held factor much thought until this PR campaign got into full swing, simply because Amway/Quixtar/Alticor was never contributing one way or another.
If it is true, then I think that's pretty deceptive, and still avoiding the problem which according Chuck Goetschel is high product prices.
I tend to agree, and that was the single biggest hurdle that I found when being involved in this in the 90's. Apparently, not much has changed.
If Amway/Quixtar/Alticor were having ghost customers to buy retail, what would they have to gain by that? My opinion is that they'll be able to have false stats showing that retail does happen. This would come in handy for people sharing the opportunity with others, and oh, say, having something to show in court that proves that there is retailing going on.
Obviously if there is a significant jump in retail sales from 3.4% to 10%, something's rotten in the state of Denmark, and everyone would know that Amway/Quixtar/Alticor is pulling something. Over 6% is a huge jump in a short time in many aspects of big business. But who could prove this is not happening? Nobody without full access at Amway/Quixtar/Alticor.
So I don't know if that's happening or not. Would it surprise me if it were revealed that it was happening? No, not really. Would it be addressing the real issues? No, not really. Would that be anything new to Amway/Quixtar/Alticor? Meh....
Do you think Amway/Quixtar/Alticor would do that?
If you think they would, do you think that's being honest with the business, IBO's and future IBO's?
UPDATE:
I neglected to point out the original source of this theory. Here it is...
What the message of the post essentially is suggests that Amway/Quixtar could be putting retail customer orders under platinums anonymously. One person even commented to say this may have happened to him, as he has received a bunch of customers with no names or shipping addresses.
What does that do? It eventually allows Amway/Quixtar to lay claim that there is actually a lot of retail sales going on, when there isn't.
Now, before we go any further, I am not saying this is going on. I'm also not saying this is not going on. What I am saying is that if it were going on, who would really be able to prove it? I mean honestly, Amway/Quixtar/Alticor is all privately held and accountable to nobody.
Remember how when IBO's are trying to lend credibility to the company, it's always pointed out to be a family run private company? Not always good, because they wouldn't be accountable to anyone, nor would they have to disclose anything they don't want to disclose. Obviously, they will share what is good, but until very recently, you never heard anything that was bad/negative spoken by the company. I mean seriously, after a completely dismal performance trying to pretend that none of the bad was going on, they finally grabbed a glove and got into the game. The fact that they waited so long to strategize how they were going to deal with it is very telling as to the veracity of the issues.
I never gave the privately held factor much thought until this PR campaign got into full swing, simply because Amway/Quixtar/Alticor was never contributing one way or another.
If it is true, then I think that's pretty deceptive, and still avoiding the problem which according Chuck Goetschel is high product prices.
I tend to agree, and that was the single biggest hurdle that I found when being involved in this in the 90's. Apparently, not much has changed.
If Amway/Quixtar/Alticor were having ghost customers to buy retail, what would they have to gain by that? My opinion is that they'll be able to have false stats showing that retail does happen. This would come in handy for people sharing the opportunity with others, and oh, say, having something to show in court that proves that there is retailing going on.
Obviously if there is a significant jump in retail sales from 3.4% to 10%, something's rotten in the state of Denmark, and everyone would know that Amway/Quixtar/Alticor is pulling something. Over 6% is a huge jump in a short time in many aspects of big business. But who could prove this is not happening? Nobody without full access at Amway/Quixtar/Alticor.
So I don't know if that's happening or not. Would it surprise me if it were revealed that it was happening? No, not really. Would it be addressing the real issues? No, not really. Would that be anything new to Amway/Quixtar/Alticor? Meh....
Do you think Amway/Quixtar/Alticor would do that?
If you think they would, do you think that's being honest with the business, IBO's and future IBO's?
UPDATE:
I neglected to point out the original source of this theory. Here it is...
posted by rocket at 10:47 AM
7 Comments:
Now there is a credible source....NOT
Quixtar has *always* delivered "free" customers to platinums and above. Deb over on the QBlog forums can confirm that. It's nothing new, and I expect there's probably been more of them given the recent Nutrilite coverage and the publicly open Team Nutrilite website that has been promoted along with it.
One has to remember that the TEAM actually has a paid PR firm running their "freetheibo" sites.
I just thought it seemed weird, that's all. I am taking into account the source, however, it would appear to me that Amway/Quixstar has everything to gain by doing something like that, and nothing to lose.
It was just a thought. I mean really, with a 3.4% retail sales rate, how often could it happen, and why would a customer want to remain anonymous? Even on Ebay you eventually have to give a real name to have the item shipped to you.
Just made me wonder, is all.
IBOFB, are you suggesting that there's absolutely no way Amway would stoop to that dishonest level?
No way at all?
I'd never say "no way", but I find it extremely unlikely.
As it is, the "ghost shoppers" end up probably being all the doing of TEAM - I explain why on my post TEAM keeps digging
I would like to say to Rocket. Do you have nothing better to do than to to trash Quixtar/Amway on the web if so maybe you should become and IBO and somebody could actually direct you to a reliable source.
Isn't it funny how Quixtarians deceive people into thinking quixtar is a good business (which hurts peole) then when real life heroes like Rocket point out the "truth", (which helps people) it suddenly becomes sommeone "trashing" quixtar.
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