Sunday, September 24, 2006

Not Getting It

HOoooo Weeee!

Been a LONG time since I posted. Seems like everyone is taking a hiatus of sorts, and the inspiration factor has been low. Autumn is the best time of year where I live, and I've been enjoying the weather lately. It won't be long before old man winter has us in his icy grip.

While I was browsing through the archives at Quixtar Blog, I noticed a bit of a tendancy that the pro Quix people have. I'm not sure if this is taught in the AMO's or what.

Here it is. Once the IBO seems to be stifled on every argument, (you know, prices, shipping, expensive etc...)they try to bow out with a bit of grace by saying one of two things:

1. The Critic doesn't get it

2. They say that they know what they have their hands on, and suggest the critic doesn't

I don't know. Maybe I don't get it. I don't know what it is I don't get, but maybe I don't. As far as knowing what you have your hands on, well, maybe I don't.

But maybe I do, and that's why I'm not involved anymore. Something tells me that if I did want to get involved again, no IBO would have a problem setting aside my ignorance in order to sponsor me.

I think I do get it. I also think I know what you have your hands on, and I'm glad you think it's great, but that doesn't change anything if it's not that great.

I think a better way to bow out would be to say something like,

"Well, it's not for everyone, and I'm glad you have something to make money at that makes you happy. If you ever reconsider, I'll be happy to help you out".

That's alot more professional than insinuating that someone is stupid because they don't want to join you in your business. All that does is exacerbate the negative connotations associated with your business.

Someone who works in a clothing store doesn't tell you that you don't get it if you decide not to buy a shirt there, or tell you that you don't know what you've got your hands on.

Don't call uninterested people stupid. It's not nice.

21 Comments:

Blogger MLMInformer said...

Rocket,

You're right, you obviously don't get it- I'm not putting you down or anything. Lot's of people don't get it- even the "super intelligent" types. Once you do "get it", good things happen.

Nice article, I am glad to see you showed some honesty. As to your comment,

"Well, it's not for everyone, and I'm glad you have something to make money at that makes you happy. If you ever reconsider, I'll be happy to help you out".

I've told you this over and over before, and you finally "got it".

I think any IBO that reads your blog (including myself) would be very happy to assist you if you ever reconsidered.

Cheers, peace and good luck to you and I hope you're happy with whatever it is you do.

Mikey

24 September, 2006 15:35  
Blogger rocket said...

Thanks Mikey. Did you ever consider that there may be something to get other than how good this business is? ergo, the critics may have some elements of correctness?

I'm confused by what you mean by showing honesty. Have I shown dishonesty in the past?

Dave Robison has me in his ilk if I ever reconsider. Thanks though.

24 September, 2006 16:15  
Blogger MLMInformer said...

rocket,

"critics may have some elements of correctness?"

They may be correct some of the time, but they are NOT correct all of the time. That doesn't go just for the critic's either, that goes for everybody.

24 September, 2006 18:17  
Blogger rocket said...

Fair enough. I don't know if I asked you this, so I'll ask you again:

I'm confused by what you mean by showing honesty. Have I shown dishonesty in the past?

26 September, 2006 06:46  
Blogger MLMInformer said...

Rocket,

Lemme rephrase that...

What I meant to say was "sincerity" not "honesty". So far you have been totally honest with your thoughts and opinions, however, your facts about the business might be just a little off key..

Mikey

26 September, 2006 20:52  
Blogger David Robison said...

Dave Robison has me in his ilk if I ever reconsider. Thanks though.

Thanks Rocket.

I consider that high praise.

Dave

26 September, 2006 23:04  
Blogger rocket said...

Mikey, say what you mean and mean what you say. Not being confrontational, I just put a lot of value in my word and integrity. I do tend to bristle when I'm accused of dishonesty.

Dave, I'm glad you see it for what it is, because it is a compliment.

27 September, 2006 20:51  
Blogger MLMInformer said...

rocket,

If you "put a lot of value in my word and integrity"

Why hide behind a pseudoname?

27 September, 2006 21:22  
Blogger rocket said...

"Why hide behind a pseudoname?"(sic)

I have my reasons. I think I have good reasons.

Why do you bother people at boat shows? You have your reasons I suppose.

I think you need to be reminded that putting information about yourself on the internet is not a wise idea. Do you recall LawDawg's lesson?

I am very confident that Dave would agree that I have good reasons to remain the rocket. It's my choice.

If it bothers you that much, don't come here. I don't really care one way or the other.

Take it or leave it, as usual Mikey.

It really is that simple Mikey.

27 September, 2006 22:52  
Blogger MLMInformer said...

Rocket,

It doesn't bother me at all you're hiding behind a pseudonym.

What does prospecting at the boatshow have anything to do with this conversation? Absolutely Nothing. You're just trying to change the conversation because you're upset I even asked that question.

You may have good reasons to hide behind a pseudonym, much like Qrush and Lawdawg do too. Because they like to attack people personally and be able to run and hide without ever having to suffer the consequences.

Mikey

28 September, 2006 10:15  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mikey, don't be a numbnuts. Rocket has VERY good reasons to "hide", as you put it, behind a pseudonym. It has nothing to do with attacking people personally. You visited this blog...how the hell can Rocket be attacking anyone that visits his blog? Your spouting off about integrity and honesty and so forth strike me as more personal attacks than anything else I've seen here.
If you don't like his views, then piss off...don't come back. And yes, I too have a very good reason to do this anonymously.

29 September, 2006 07:05  
Blogger MLMInformer said...

Anon,

I've NEVER said I don't like his views.

This has nothing to do with his opinions or view point about the business. I really don't care what he thinks about the Quixtar opportunity at all. Everybody is entitled to their opinions!

But rocket has made several personal attacks about me in the past(see previous post), including posting personal and negative attacks on my own blog.I've had to delete several of his comments.

My point is, if you're going to make bold faced comments, that's great! OWN THEM, sign your name to them. Take ownership of every post you make.

To me, that shows more credibility than anything.

Mikey

P.S. Anon, the only reason you remained anonymous is so that you could tell me to "piss off".

29 September, 2006 11:19  
Blogger rocket said...

"But rocket has made several personal attacks about me in the past(see previous post), including posting personal and negative attacks on my own blog.I've had to delete several of his comments."

Well I guess what you consider to be personal attacks, I consider to be open and honest opinions. I wonder why that is. I guess nobody can judge my comments on you blog for themselves, since you have deleted my comments. The reason for that, in my opinion, is because they made you look really, really foolish.

Rest assured, and comments you have left on this blog are still intact. I am comfortable with what I write, and what is written about me. You obviously are not.

You talk about credibility. I guess it's very safe to find an article, and simply paste it on your blog. That's fine for you. Go ahead and post someone else's work on your blog. This blog, however, is my opinions, and all original. If that is considred too radical for you, then don't come here.

You haven't pointed out a lie that I have made I noticed.

I know of several you've made.

1-boatshow prospecting
2- free motivation on a free website.

You are really one to talk of credibility.

Anon, thanks for the support. I believe you are unc, and you are completely right. Mikey is a bit of a numbnuts.

Mikey, I don't care what you think. About anything at all. You don't impress me, you don't inspire me, you don't make me laugh, you don't make me cry. Nothing.

I really don't hold you in a positive or negative regard, you are simply inconsequential to me. I think it's funny that the only thing you can really give me grief about is being anon.

So if that's all you got, then full steam ahead my friend.

29 September, 2006 13:58  
Blogger MLMInformer said...

Rocket,

Again you're changing the subjet as usual. But that is NOTHING new there.

Please, don't quote me as your friend.

29 September, 2006 21:18  
Blogger AnonIBO said...

Rocket,

I am relatively new to your blog and I've been trying to research your archives to find this training site that Michael said he lied about. Being an IBO myself also involved in the Worldwide Dreambuilders group(Brad Wogamont's team), a premier member with a my.biz website, IBO's do have access to free training through that website. They can choose to give a new IBO free access as much as they want until their business is cash flowed and they can afford to get a premier membership themselves.

You're right in one aspect that it's not 100% free, but it's a nice feature to help train IBO's that are at a distance and get people up to speed.

I am lost in the rest of the conversation about prospecting at a boatshow.I thought I would help shed some light on the training aspect of WWDB.

30 September, 2006 11:06  
Blogger rocket said...

Hi anonibo, thanks for dropping by. You will find that here, unlike at other sites, that your comments will be allowed to stand always. 2 way communication is what it's all about, and I don't care if you make me look foolish, or catch me being stupid. This is a site where nobody's views are deleted, nor hidden. I think it is pertinent to point out mlminformer seems to like deleting anything I put on his blog. However, he doesn't seem to have a problem putting his thoughts here.

As to your points you brought up

If it's not 100% free, then it's not free. The argument was that it was brought up by mlminformer that this was free. It is not. He is caught in a lie. Too bad for him, and not something you would expect of a business leader. I did create a comment to tell him that his "Micheal's Rants" post was great, but he deleted it anyway.

However, I've come to expect this sort of behaviour from mlminformer.

The boat show matter can be found over at QBlog. If you are truly interested in seeing this, I will supply you links, so you will know I'm being truthful.

I'm glad that there is progress in providing free motivation. You will find that the motivation is the part of the business that the critics are criticizing.

Firstly, because that is where the bulk of the "leader's" money comes from.

Secondly, because it has not been demonstrated to increse the rank and file IBO's profitability. Very very very few people can show a profit after being 100% plugged into any given "system"

Thanks for giving your 2 cents about the training system. I would like to see one of these sites that the training is available on some day...

30 September, 2006 15:04  
Anonymous Somewhere in between said...

Can we call stupid people uninteresting?

30 September, 2006 15:30  
Blogger AnonIBO said...

Rocket,

I appreciate your feedback!

I am not here to defend anyone's point of view but my own.What happens between you and Michael is between you and Michael. :-)

I have to disagree with you about the tools profits. All IBO's, in order to get paid, have to retail products. I could have 1000's of IBO's in my business but it would not matter unless they were purchasing or out retailing products to retail clients. If they didn't have to retail products they wouldn't base the compensation plan on a PV/BV point system per product sold.

I really disagree with the percentage of tools profits VS actual PV/BV earned. The business is different now than it was back when the tools systems were running rampant. Back in the 70's it took 25 platinum's to go Diamond. Today it only takes 9 platinums with the FAA point system. With 25 platinums per business, I could see how the tools profits would flourish.

Also, The function numbers aren't growing as well as they once were,they are actually diminishing.

WWDB cut the number of functions down to just two per year, so there really isn't much of a profit potential there anymore.

The money is in the FAA points which nobody seems to understand or can explain very well. The average Crown Ambassador makes $5 million in FAA bonuses alone! The FAA is based upon Achievement levels, which is based upon product volume. The tools profits are really a thing of the past.

Tapes and CD's are only $2.50 now, and the commission on communikate is $7.00 per month and the commission on the premier system is only $7.00.

There are now 10 steps to core instead of 9 thanks to the Premier membership.

I hope this sheds some more light!

30 September, 2006 19:49  
Anonymous GAE said...

rocket, love your posts! hope you have some more time on your hands now. i think it's great that you do not delete anything any body posts here. as a former IBO i to can appreciate the reasons for a pseudo-name . keep up the good and HONEST work

01 October, 2006 07:46  
Blogger insider said...

If you want to enter in to some intelligent dialogue direct with IBOs, try The Truth About Amway and Quixtar

24 November, 2006 20:51  
Blogger rocket said...

Intelligent dialogue my ass, it's a bunch of foolish propaganda.

Insider, unless you have something pertinent to the discussion at hand to add, then get lost.

I'm not in the habit of deleting comments, but I will delete your lame assed brand of spam.

Spout your verbal diarrhea somewhere else, this is not an advertising board for a wannabe's misleading blog.

Screw

03 March, 2007 21:48  

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