Facebook For Heaven Sake
I was thinking tonight as I came across a few Facebook pages.
When I was in True North, (Anyone have a password?) we had Voice-Tel, Book of the month, Tape of the week, Extra tape of the week (For those that are serious, of course) as well as monthly rallies and quarterly major functions.
With the advent of the internet, it's pretty obvious that the Quixtar/Amway leadership refuses to make motivation accommodating for everyone in their group.
Let's face it, it does not cost that much to have a website, or distribute audio files. It takes almost nothing to share information anymore, yet people are still told to buy all this crap if they are serious.
You don't need stuff like voice messaging to keep your people informed, you don't need a book of the month distributed by a "leader", and you certainly don't need to be listening to a few hours of (amateur and self serving) motivation as well.
This is absolute lunacy that people are still subscribing to the things that stuff money in the pockets of their leaders. Based on what need? The need to communicate? You can do it for nothing using everyday applications which are available to everyone!
The social networking sites are relatively private if you like, and even more efficient than having a monthly voice messaging system, hard copy CD's for everyone, as well as books. Yep, you'd have cross lining but.....so what?
I just realized tonight how completely insane the whole thing is.
IBO's, WAKE THE HELL UP!!!
When I was in True North, (Anyone have a password?) we had Voice-Tel, Book of the month, Tape of the week, Extra tape of the week (For those that are serious, of course) as well as monthly rallies and quarterly major functions.
With the advent of the internet, it's pretty obvious that the Quixtar/Amway leadership refuses to make motivation accommodating for everyone in their group.
Let's face it, it does not cost that much to have a website, or distribute audio files. It takes almost nothing to share information anymore, yet people are still told to buy all this crap if they are serious.
You don't need stuff like voice messaging to keep your people informed, you don't need a book of the month distributed by a "leader", and you certainly don't need to be listening to a few hours of (amateur and self serving) motivation as well.
This is absolute lunacy that people are still subscribing to the things that stuff money in the pockets of their leaders. Based on what need? The need to communicate? You can do it for nothing using everyday applications which are available to everyone!
The social networking sites are relatively private if you like, and even more efficient than having a monthly voice messaging system, hard copy CD's for everyone, as well as books. Yep, you'd have cross lining but.....so what?
I just realized tonight how completely insane the whole thing is.
IBO's, WAKE THE HELL UP!!!
posted by rocket at 9:13 PM
22 Comments:
Rocket,
Many MLMers are already doing Facebook and MySpace. I know MySpace has all kinds of MLM Groups and I'm prospected daily by MySpace messaging when people read I'm in Quixtar.
MySpace also has many Quixtar IBOs on it as well. Dex Yager Has/had a page but I don't think he started it...he won't accept me as friend.
BTW, You should update your page and get some more friends on your page.
Won't accept you as a friend?
Maybe you need to be more plugged in :0)
Yes, I have seen a number of MLM folks on these social sites, which is why people shelling out money for something so unnecessary is so vexing!
I don't need friends, you're good enough.
I'm pretty much full up on friends right now anyways...
You've inspired me...I finally signed up at Facebook.
rocket,
Rather than sit there and complain how bad it is, take your ideas impliment them with your group.
Do you think it's easy to create something like this? Go for it! Show me what you got, or sit down and shut up. If you got something better, then do it.
You just seem to think you've got all the answers when you don't. If your ideas actually worked, you would have put it into use for your downline. It's easier to sit there and say things like "if I were to do this I would do it this way". GO FOR IT! Go diamond with your ideas, go for the accreditation. Get recognized for being a true leader.
Obviously you really haven't spent much time exploring my site or who I am.
Maybe do that, then make a comment if you wish.
I'm not going to slam you this time, it would be like rubbing a puppy's nose in his pee after he has an accident on my carpet.
Have a nice day.
The self-help/self-improvement industry is a multi-billion dollar industry. MOST people who participate in the reading, listening, and attending, of these kinds of books, CDs, and seminars, are GABs (good attitude bums).
They think that taking in all this stuff is what will transform their lives. They neglect a crucial element of true learning, which is the APPLICATION of this information--actual WORK and taking responsibility for the choices they make in their life—including THEIR choice to take their time and money to read/listen/attend.
They fail to take the position of CAUSE, but would rather take the position of EFFECT.
The difference, though, with the Amway/Quixtar PDPs (professional development programs) is that the consumers of their books, CDs, and seminars, have a more personal relationship with the creators of this self-help/self-improvement than they do with Tony Robbins, Shakti Gawain, Steven Covey, Deepak Chopra, etc., etc.,etc.
So they (disgruntled IBOs) blame, blame, blame when life just doesn’t work out for them the way that they thought.
If the above-mentioned people had personal, ongoing, relationships with the consumers of their goods, we’d hear from tons of the consumers, things like:
*Tony, I did everything you said to do, I walked on hot coals and my life isn’t the way you promised it would be. Waah-Waah
*Shakti, I did everything you said to do, a visualized my pile of money, my perfect mate, my free life, and my life isn’t the way you promised it would be. Waah-Waah.
*Steven, I did everything you said to do, I began with the end in mind, I think win-win, I sharpened the saw, I found my voice and inspired others to find theirs, and my life isn’t the way you promised it would be. Waah-Waah
*Deepak, I did everything you said to do, I meditated 30 minutes a day twice a day, I gave a flower and a compliment, I sought my Higher Self, and my life isn’t the way you promised it would be. Waah-Waah.
All of these “gurus” messages are available all over the Internet—for free—just like the Amway/Quixtar “gurus”.
Considering that the above-mentioned self-help gods and goddess are living comfortable lifestyles, it would appear that people are still buying their books, CDs, and seminars, REGARDLESS of the no-cost availability of their goods.
All the IBOs who got “conned” by their Upline, is the same pool of GABs who would get “conned” by Tony, Shakti, Steven, Deepak, and friends.
Anon#2
rocket,
"I'm not going to slam you this time"
Awww why not? That's all you can offer. After all, you don't have any real solutions to building a Quixtar business. Go for it. A slam is all you have. I can take it. It just validates what a pathetic loser you Quixtar critics really are.
Again I state if you know how to build this business better, then show us. Put up or shut up. I have yet to hear any Quixtar critic offer anything of value to truly help IBO's build their businesses.
Show us what you've got.
How to build a better business:
1. Have a competitive product.
2. Don't have a "partner who tells you what you need to succeed and be a millionaire can be conveniently be purchased through him.
3. Think for yourself
If you think your "business" is so competitive and profitable, then feel free to take either Rocket's Challenge or Bridgett's Challenge.
If not, why not?
Anon 2
So you have a personal relationship (to some degree I suppose) with the people on the CD's and on stage who are definitely not in a conflict of interest situation.
How's that help your bottom line?
rocket,
you call that a solution?
"If you think your "business" is so competitive and profitable, then feel free to take either Rocket's Challenge or Bridgett's Challenge."
I challenged you and you challenge me right back? Bwahahahahahaha. Funny.
Take my challenge first. If you think you have a better idea of how to run things, then go diamond, get accredited.
I've read your "challenge" and decided you'll need to make it more worth my time. I suggest a $2500 donation to my favorite charity before I accept your challenge.
Uh, those ARE my solutions meathead.
If you win, I would give you $2500 to your favorite charity.
You lose, and you give ME $2500, that's if you have anything left after being bled money to your upline for functions, overpriced products and motivation.
You're on.
I will await an email, where we can share the information required to make it a bet.
rocket's not promoting some system that will generate wealth. Some IBOs however, are.
Nobody has said that NOBODY makes money in quixtar, but the bigger picture is for every one successful IBO, there are far more who are unsuccessful.
joecool: but the bigger picture is for every one successful IBO, there are far more who are unsuccessful.
Huh? That's how it is in EVERYTHING. Why would the Quixtar/Amway business be any different?
Anon#2
anonymous said: Huh? That's how it is in EVERYTHING. Why would the Quixtar/Amway business be any different?
Joe says: Tapespeak. How many McDonald's owners lose money? Very few if any, as compared to IBOs where very few succeed.
Joecool said...
anonymous said: Huh? That's how it is in EVERYTHING. Why would the Quixtar/Amway business be any different?
Joe says: Tapespeak. How many McDonald's owners lose money? Very few if any, as compared to IBOs where very few succeed
Damn, I hate to do this..but the McD's argument doesn't seem valid.
You either must compare Quixtar and McD's to all businesses where the outcome is for every business that succeeds, many others fail.
Or make the argument that Franchises on the whole do better and are more successful than standalone business opportunities such as Badge-A-Mint, Ice Cream Trucks, MLMs, and vending machines.
Or compare Quixtar to other MLMs and the success rates of reps on the whole in the commpetitors of Quixtar.
Dave said: Damn, I hate to do this..but the McD's argument doesn't seem valid.
Joe says: I agree with your point Dave, but actually, it is usually IBOs themselves who often use McDonald's as a comparison to quixtar so it was convenient for me to do so as well.
joecool and Dave,
Rather than comparing business models, why not compare work habit?
Maybe a McDonald's owner actually treats his McDonald's like a business, rather than some "grow- rich-while-you-sleep-get-rich-quick-while-sitting-on-your-butt-listening-to-CDs-and-attending-seminars-and-reading-books-and-prospecting-dorks-online-and-in-the-business-section-of-the-bookstores" thing.
Anon#2
Anon with the big $2500 bet.
Still waiting for that email.
I was hoping you might be the first one with the jam to take my challenge.
Darn it, I thought that anonymous was serious for a split second.
Imagine if you got a dime everytime an anonymous supporter made a claim without backing it up?
Unless, of course, rocket or joecool is Anon#1 to divert attention from Anon #2.
Anon#2
Wht don't Anon #1 and #2 just pick a cool nickname to comment under. Blogger.com allows the use of a nicknmae without being a member.
It'd make it easier
Anonymous, you are wrong, Joecool posts as Joecool
For the record...
No email to facilitate the $2500 bet.
Sorry folks. It woulda been fun.
*sighs*
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