PRo Amwayers taking a page from Amway's playbook?
It would appear that the patriot defenders of Amway are taking a breather from vigorous discussion with their arch nemesis critics.
They've left a few discussions hanging, and have vowed over at David Steadson's website that they won't be engaging the critics because it's not a good use of time.
You can do your own translation of what that means. Personally? My opinion is they've taken a shit kicking because people call them out on their arrogance, know it all attitudes, and feigned sincerity.
They aren't fooling me, nor anyone else who has been following along. Fact of the matter is they aren't building their Amway business, they aren't achieving any kind of notable success, and they aren't making any headway with the Corporation's changes.
It's all still the same. Amway isn't enforcing the rules like theysaid implied they would.
Cripes, you hadDavid Steadson> IBOFB doing it semi professionally and it hasn't helped the reputation!
How long will this last? It's anyone's guess, but there will always be the new gung ho Amway Distributors that will try and defend the business online, only to fizzle out.
Anyway, I should point out that crazy old IBOFB already didn't keep his resolution, to wit:
"2007 I made a resolution to stop posting on QBlog forums. Made it through the year!
This year I'll add the following -
Any JoeCool blog
Any Rocket blog
Any QIAC blog
Any Tex blog
And I also vow not to reply to any of their posts on other sites."
But then he pops up over here!:
IBOFB said...CG,
A quick reply, I've decided to stop wasting my time with the likes of rocket, who spreads private information like my name and where I live - information I have never given out in connection with my Amway blogging....
...If you'd care for any followup, feel free to ask on Amway Talk"
So I'm not sure how much weight we can put into what IBOFB says.
Looks like he's given up the ghost about trying to remain anonymous though.
Good for him.
Seriously though folks, it's damn obvious to me that the Amway defenders have no desire to engage right now with the critics. I know why, and it's because when you are engaged in a conversation with a raw recruit who has no idea whatsoever about Amway and what it is, it's very easy to make them agreeable with your viewpoint.
After all, they're really in no position to argue are they? They don't know about the tools deception, the information control, the high prices, and they may not know about the poor reputation.
Pretty to easy to control that conversation, isn't it?
Now when those techniques are applied to someone who knows where the bear shit in the buckwheat, they are at a loss with how to handle it.
Enter the false sincerity and the hidden insults within kindly worded statements. But even those don't go the way they are planned because it's such a common part of the business that the critics don't let that go either!
And why should we? I mean really, we got some guy waging a war on critics who tries to dismiss critics as people who don't know what they're talking about, and for reasons unknown.
Then we got another gal who throws personal insults at people when she's trapped like a caged baboon, but tries to do it with (dis) grace so that it looks sincere and sweet. It doesn't work, and we aren't trying to just end an awkward conversation in which case 90% of people would just let it go.
If one of the regular critics was approached on the street by an IBO, 9 times out of 10, the critic would know more about Amway than the guy trying to recruit them.
So take a break Pro Amwayer! Do what your beloved Amway does. Look the other way and pretend the bad doesn't exist.
See how that works for ya!
They've left a few discussions hanging, and have vowed over at David Steadson's website that they won't be engaging the critics because it's not a good use of time.
You can do your own translation of what that means. Personally? My opinion is they've taken a shit kicking because people call them out on their arrogance, know it all attitudes, and feigned sincerity.
They aren't fooling me, nor anyone else who has been following along. Fact of the matter is they aren't building their Amway business, they aren't achieving any kind of notable success, and they aren't making any headway with the Corporation's changes.
It's all still the same. Amway isn't enforcing the rules like they
Cripes, you had
How long will this last? It's anyone's guess, but there will always be the new gung ho Amway Distributors that will try and defend the business online, only to fizzle out.
Anyway, I should point out that crazy old IBOFB already didn't keep his resolution, to wit:
Re: Happy New Year!
by ibofightback on Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:37 pm
"2007 I made a resolution to stop posting on QBlog forums. Made it through the year!
This year I'll add the following -
Any JoeCool blog
Any Rocket blog
Any QIAC blog
Any Tex blog
And I also vow not to reply to any of their posts on other sites."
But then he pops up over here!:
IBOFB said...CG,
A quick reply, I've decided to stop wasting my time with the likes of rocket, who spreads private information like my name and where I live - information I have never given out in connection with my Amway blogging....
...If you'd care for any followup, feel free to ask on Amway Talk"
So I'm not sure how much weight we can put into what IBOFB says.
Looks like he's given up the ghost about trying to remain anonymous though.
Good for him.
Seriously though folks, it's damn obvious to me that the Amway defenders have no desire to engage right now with the critics. I know why, and it's because when you are engaged in a conversation with a raw recruit who has no idea whatsoever about Amway and what it is, it's very easy to make them agreeable with your viewpoint.
After all, they're really in no position to argue are they? They don't know about the tools deception, the information control, the high prices, and they may not know about the poor reputation.
Pretty to easy to control that conversation, isn't it?
Now when those techniques are applied to someone who knows where the bear shit in the buckwheat, they are at a loss with how to handle it.
Enter the false sincerity and the hidden insults within kindly worded statements. But even those don't go the way they are planned because it's such a common part of the business that the critics don't let that go either!
And why should we? I mean really, we got some guy waging a war on critics who tries to dismiss critics as people who don't know what they're talking about, and for reasons unknown.
Then we got another gal who throws personal insults at people when she's trapped like a caged baboon, but tries to do it with (dis) grace so that it looks sincere and sweet. It doesn't work, and we aren't trying to just end an awkward conversation in which case 90% of people would just let it go.
If one of the regular critics was approached on the street by an IBO, 9 times out of 10, the critic would know more about Amway than the guy trying to recruit them.
So take a break Pro Amwayer! Do what your beloved Amway does. Look the other way and pretend the bad doesn't exist.
See how that works for ya!
posted by rocket at 12:45 PM
7 Comments:
I'm clapping your post Rocket! Clap, clap, clap, clap .........
Bravo!
When IBOFB says he is not posting anymore, what's he's really saying is I'm tired of getting the shit kicked out of me so I'm quitting.
It's why he's a quitter. LOL
When you lie as mush as IBOFB, it's bound to get exposed.
David states " I've decided to stop wasting my time with the likes of rocket, who spreads private information like my name and where I live - information I have never given out in connection with my Amway blogging....
...If you'd care for any followup, feel free to ask on Amway Talk" "
So the reason the wishes not to talk to the critic is that he is upset that his name and where he lives was mentioned..yet he want to continue talking with the critic on his site...
I find that rather..goofy.
I think in the near future we will see more of the same contradictions as he slowly realizes the nature of the business he is in.
Mike...
I have already pointed out that this pundit of deceit is committing a crime by misrepresentation. He forms up a conspiracy to defraud by denying the Amway financial holocaust. His contradictions are therefore instead lies.
Thereby, criminal intent to defraud is the crime and David Steadson, aka IBOFB, aka Insider, is the criminal, proponent of a World wide cult conspiracy. A vast conspiracy which also include the cult initiators and cult crown princes--as Eric Scheibler describes them--the merchants of deception!
The work of David Brear succeeds in assisting the leaders of European governments to more fully understand the ramifications of Amway corruption, which 'We, the People', not just 'we the critics', but 'the dudes' are all so instrumental in exposing the AmQuix darkness. A guiding light into what Brear describes as the vast Amway Labyrinth, a Worldwide cult conspiracy, began initially by an obscure relatively unknown (and carefully disguised) 'crimongenic' figure and has continued basically unabated for much longer than the ongoing Amway 50 year swindle, celebrating half a century of corruption; a truth cult like to its core!
IBOfightback is a shameless liar.
So when he ventures off to Amway related websites, his lies get exposed and he looks like a jackass.
But on his own site, he will tell his tales and use his slight of hand and his kool aid drinking followers will ooh and awe and agree with him.
http://quixtar-ibo.blogspot.com/2007/08/quixtar-started-massive-clean-up.html
Didn't take long for IBOFB to break his resolution. By his own definition, I guess you could say he is lying again?
IBOFB may not have posted on Qblog per say but he most certainly followed the discussion closely and even responded to various posts via private message. He didn't successfully keep to anything.
It is too easy for us critics to thoroughly show supporters like IBOFB and Bridgett, lack of logic and reason. They have no other choice but to run and hide over at IBOFBs site. All I have to say is Adio!!!!!!
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